Chapter 1: Beginning
0:00so Ethan Klein has responded to my video titled heiler Klein is a terrorist now he doesn't actually directly respond because he's very much a coward but it's
0:07very clear that he's talking about my video and the fact that he hides what I actually say in my video from his audience means that he can make
0:15arguments that I refuted in the video itself to them as if they haven't already been refuted before he even made
0:22them now in my video I was merely applying Ethan Klein's own standards to his own wife healer but it seems he has changed his standards around a bit now
0:30the same standards that he previously been using to accuse others of being terrorists interesting right so let's watch parts of this um response and and
0:39check out his amazing talking points and see if we can refute them so let's start out with hiler Klein's opening statement on this subject in this clip fact the
0:47lack of nuance like calling me now a terrorist like are we really not going to differentiate it anymore what's
0:55what's a terrorist and what's not cuz if we can't have like words that we can on how are we ever going to talk about anything well so I think that's a that's
1:04a really good point from Heil Klein there I do agree we need to have like words where we all sort of agree on the definitions that we can at least use
1:12them in a useful way let's look at how hiler Klein uses the word terrorist to see what her actual standard was before
1:20it started actually being applied to her this is heiler Klein talking about when she went on a military raid of a city in the illegally occupied Palestinian West
1:29Bank so explain but for some reason it was more interesting I enjoyed it more you told me once you went on like a mission with them mhm to like a
1:37terrorist City yeah that was kind of a crazy story yeah the so my officers and like the the so you can see their Klein
Chapter 2: Ethan & Hila blatantly lie, avoid counterarguments
1:46called the entire Palestinian city of ramala a terrorist City everyone in there was a terrorist for him heiler didn't disagree with that she said yeah
1:55she also said that this raid which for context is part of a a system of terrorism character out by the IDF against Palestinians in the occupied
2:02West Bank where the IDF basically just randomly sends troops into cities in which they are not supposed to be at all obviously because they're illegal
2:10occupiers and like you know raids a random house takes a random kid arrests him to scare him a little bit and and for her the people who she was illegally
2:18occupying and did this to were also just terrorists unambiguously she calls them terrorists Brigade um they would go
2:27every night on a raid right in armala to to arrest terrorist
2:34to arrest terrorists I do agree Ethan and hiler we should we should have better definitions for stuff that we all
2:41agree on but it seems like you're backtracking from your earlier definition now that you're being accused of the same thing that you are basically
2:50accusing Palestinians of and yenis of and this is a quote from a recent Ethan Klein video where he said that Hassan
2:57perer platformed hoofy terrorist he is referring to a 19-year-old named Rashid I don't know what his last name is but
3:05he is a yeni Arab man and Ethan considers him to be a terrorist even though this man has clarified that he is
3:12not even a member of the hoofy organization that Ean has accused him of being you know that he's not a combatant in any way that he has never done
3:20anything that even these people with their incredibly broad all encompassing definition of terrorism to mean anyone I don't like is actually encompassed by
3:28but they were happy to call him terrorist why I think we can we can guess why he's Arab it's really that
3:35simple isn't it he's Arab for them hiler Klein who admits to going on raids in the occupied West Bank terrorist raids
3:43who admits to carrying out logistical and and organizational activities for the IDF which is by any reasonable measure a terrorist organization she's
3:53somehow not a terrorist so we need to dial back a definition and have Nuance but when he is branding his opponents is terrorists and terrorist sympathizers
4:01when he is branding one of the most important cities in all of Palestinian culture as a terrorist City we don't
4:09need that Nuance they're just all terrorists anyway let's continue watching the clip let's see what incredible arguments these Geniuses
4:18haveen they can call Israeli soldiers terrorist but like you aren't a soldier that like it's not we don't even go that far I I mean I think even calling
4:26soldiers terrorists is not accurate isn't it hiler Klein isn't that just a convenient definition where like
4:33apparently any Soldier for like any state cannot be a terrorist okay heila so let's put this to the test then what about Palestinian resistance soldiers
4:42are they terrorists by your definition given that you called a random guy like a random kid being arrested by idf's troops in the occupied West Bank of
4:50terrorists I would bet they are what about like the Iranian revolutionary guard corpse those ones are even like actual members of a state military right
4:59they are sold as you put it are they terrorists for you I bet You' call them terrorists in a second suddenly the G posts are moved now that the label is
5:08being applied to you but that's hein's opinion on it it's not Ethan's Ethan's opinion was that you have to be a combatant to be a terrorist do you
5:16believe that Ethan I don't think you do at all for that matter I don't believe that I don't think anyone believes that I don't think that anyone would say that
5:24for example what hea's first role in the IDF was which she said I'll play the clip just to make sure you know that I'm not lying just to make sure because
5:32these people love to accuse you of lying even when you're obviously not but hila Klein said that she booked hotels for
5:39Israeli officers during operation casted it sounded like operation casted which was um an Israeli operation of doing
5:47what they call mowing the lawn which is like strategically terrorizing the people of Gaza periodically so you know to sort of keep them keep them downtrod
5:56and keep them from getting too Up For What the Israelis consider to be acceptable a precursor to today's Gaza genocide and she said that her her role
6:04in the military was to book hotels for Israeli officers who are participating in combat activities and or leading
6:11combat activities in that operation logistically help with like their hotel
6:17or a room things like that but it was all on the computer it just so okay so my question here is would heiler and
6:24Ethan Klein consider I say a member of Hamas who booked hotels for like Hamas military operatives which they then
6:32carried out attacks from would they consider that person to be a terrorist they would obviously apply that to literally any other group who they
6:41consider terrorist they would so I don't think they believe that at all it's not a sincere belief they are just randomly deciding on a narrower definition to
6:50magically absolve heline of the terrorist label which applies way more to her than it does to really any of the people who they are applying it to and I
6:58just like to say too just to be clear the notion that if you a soldier or like an official actor of a recognized state
7:06or whatever you can not be a terrorist is ludicrous on the face of it it's just an extremely arbitrary way to get out of
7:13having uh a very emotive label applied in a way that legitimizes the activities of States no matter how abhorent they
7:22may be and no matter how clearly they may meet the actual definition of terrorism which under no reasonable definition says any about whether
7:30someone is a state actor or not for example we went over the definition of terrorism in United States law violent Acts or acts dangerous to human life
7:39that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state that would or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of
7:46any state that appear to be intended to intimidate or coer a civilian population to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion or to affect
7:55the conduct of a government by mass destruction assassination or kidnapping there's nothing in there about if you're a state actor you cannot be charged with
8:02this and I don't think there's really any definition of terrorism except ones that people are just sort of arbitrarily making up to try to legitimize the
8:10actions of states or in this case as just something they came up within the moment to magically absolve hiler Klein and anyone else who carries out acts of
8:19terrorism in the IDF just because it was convenient for them in the moment but hey let's see what else they have to say
8:26but especially me that was just criteria I I can see why she was just the secretary so I don't want to play this
8:35clip again I've already played it but I will give you the gist of it you can go and check it out yourself if you want if you haven't seen it yet I've already
8:43gone over in my last video that's why I'm not playing it just to be clear but hila Klein said that she was initially booking hotels for IDF members or
8:51officers as they were participating in an attack on Gaza but she found that boring so she asked to be transferred and she was transferred to the occupi Ed
8:59West Bank and she liked that job more and in the occupied West Bank she says that she was a secretary what does that mean a secretary even if that were true
9:08secretaries at Nazi concentration camps have been tried and found guilty in Germany the role of a secretary in a military is going to be organizational
9:17logistical stuff like that so she was clearly carrying out activities that are crucial to the actual attacks themselves
9:25they could not happen without people like her as well as being directly related to them again let's test this
9:32would Hiline consider someone who was as technically a secretary working directly under say like a Hamas military officer
9:42to not be a terrorist I think you already know that she would consider them a terrorist right it's it's obvious like the test the test of consistency
9:50the test of if they really believe this or not takes two seconds and I just I want to reiterate here again that really anyone who is objectively trying to
9:57understand the word terrorism how most people understand the word and and how it's actually codified into law all of those would easily Encompass as a
10:05terrorist someone who was you know carrying out organizational and logistical activities for the terrorist attacks which is what she was doing was
10:12just a secretary I can see that at least a defensible position to be like the IDF soldiers we see them as terrorists like that's defensible at least it's not we
10:20see them as terrorists by any objective measure of terrorist and especially the way that you've been using the term they are absolutely terrorist especially with
10:28the role that hilin was playing in the West Bank that is explicitly terrorism like like she was there as part of an illegal occupation with a unit that she
10:36herself admitted just does Terror raids for the purpose of terrorizing the local population and she chose to go on one of these raids there's no question about it
10:43she's a terrorist in general not just by like a biologic thing some people Mis misunderstood my original video Hiline
10:52is not just a terrorist bian's logic she's a terrorist by any reasonable definition of the term if it was applied equally to non-arab people non white
10:59people Israelis you know what I mean cuz we but like you weren't a Soldier again I already dealt with this talking point they just seem like
11:07they're going to be repeating the same honestly this is like dumb guy YouTube it's just I'm going to say the first thing that comes to mind because
11:14there's no way that she could ever be a terrorist right it's simply not possible so I'm just going to you know my my opinion is preconceived I'm going to
11:22defend him no matter no matter what with just the first stuff that comes to mind on repeat you were you were was like a combat you were a secretary like you did
11:31menial work you were forced to do it she was not forced to do it again let's talk about being forced into the
11:38IDF so for one hila Klein acknowledged in the original clip that she could have gotten out if she had wanted to but she
11:46didn't because she didn't want to there were a ton of ways to get out of serving in the Israeli military a lot most people who don't want to serve end up
11:54finding some way to get out of it and she clearly knows this she clearly believes this because in this podcast clip she straight up acknowledged that
12:01the context for this is that he CLI is saying that her initial desk job where she was booking hotels for IDF terrorist she found it very boring so she asked
12:09for a transfer and here is what she said about that in regards to what I was just saying it's completely random different
12:17position mhm different Post Yeah different location so I decided to do that and if I don't like the second one then I'll
12:25just find a way to get out of the army cuz was that bad yeah yeah so she could have found a way to get out of the army she no is right there she had ways to
12:33get out but she didn't take them because as she goes on to say she liked the second position that she had in ramala Ean said she was forced into it if if I
12:42see them a ton of ground because just to say just to reiterate here you are not literally like 100% forced into the Israeli military you have other options
12:50there are there are many ways in which you can get out by like you know consci conscientious objective status figing injury religious beliefs whatever and
12:58you also just take a stand and be honest and say I don't want to do this and the consequence for that is a few months in prison so it's a few months in prison
13:06versus participating in the genocidal terrorist military which one would you choose nonetheless conscription is not a valid excuse for participating in crimes
13:15and horrible acts it never has been not under law nor by anyone's morality I'm sure these two have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who has been
13:23conscripted into say Isis or any other group like that that factually cons scripts people for what everyone considers to be terrorism whether they
13:32are a combatant or whether they are in an organizational role as heila Klein was but it's magically an all absolving excuse but it is magically an all
13:40absolving excuse for her even though she has acknowledged that she could have gotten out if she had really wanted to so there is another clip where Ethan
13:48Klein brings up what I think is really the classic dumb guy talking point in matters like this it's the sort of thing that most of us would probably think of
13:57in the very first moment that we actually asked this question to ourselves and Ethan Klein seemed to be going through that experience right here
14:06in real time so let's bring that up I just want to note that the framing of this by the Twitter account that I'm going to use to play this clip is very
14:13funny holy Ethan just destroyed Pro Hamas lefters who constantly on hila for being in the IDF if you're American and want Israel to stop being
14:21armed by the US don't pay your taxes then this is the sort of thing that can only seem like an incredible talking point to you if you are very dumb or if
14:29you haven't thought about it for more than about five seconds but let's play the clip let's say people are so easy to judge Ela for doing mandatory service in
14:37Israel right they keep lying about like the mandatory service they keep saying that that's the reason why they didn't watch my video because then they would
14:46have had to like shown me dissecting the video of of Ethan and heiler discussing her so-called service in the ID of terrorist organization they would have
14:53seen me talking about it providing context to it and made it clear that that that is just a lie she had a desk job and she she asked to be transferred
15:02to something else she said that if she didn't like the second job she would have left the second job was doing direct occupation in the West Bank organizing terrorist activities for the
15:10IDF going on raids with the IDF against occupied Palestinians she liked it so she chose not to leave she wasn't forced there she asked for the transfer there
15:19she openly said she thought it was an adventure she thought it was way more fun she liked it more but the talking point on the face of it is invalid in
15:26general and it's especially invalid in healer's case cuz it is just simply lying it's leaving out so much of what she actually did as well as her own acknowledgement that she could have
15:34gotten out if she wanted to everybody goes you know what if I was there I would have
15:43objected I would have chosen to go to jail and be ostracized by Society because I am morally Superior I would
15:50take any punishment this is also a great talking point here because you can use it to absolve pretty much anyone of anything right what if an 18-year-old is
15:58like sort of of pressed into joining the mafia and doing hits for example are they guilty of the murder or not or do the circumstances and this idea that hey
16:05not everyone would be able to say no to what they did does that magically absolve them would they get out of the crime if they said that in court would
16:12they get out of being a criminal in the eyes of Ethan and heiler if that was their excuse no they wouldn't of course
16:20not it's just again they're coming up with excuses in the moment because they just want to come up with arbitrary reasons for why he is apparently not
16:28guilty of a crime terrorism for which Ethan accused like a random guy who for
16:35whom there was literally no evidence of him ever being involved in anything that can be conr construed as terrorism even remotely as strong as there is for heila
16:44Ethan was trigger happy with that label he was trigger happy with calling people like Assan terrorist sympathizers but now we got to think of the circumstances
16:51now now we got to think of like the social context behind all of this the social context that just so happens to resolve Israelis inic specifically his
16:59Israeli wife for carrying out crimes against Palestinians that bring them great material advantage and comfort and
17:07that almost all of them support isn't it just super convenient that you have all these people who commit horrid crimes against Palestinians or who help to
17:15commit them and yet almost none of them are actually responsible for it how about we apply that logic to the Nazis do you think Ethan Klein would like that
17:23do you think he would like this notion that hey man they were forced into the Holocaust hey man that secretary at the death camp she was in a non-combat role
17:33she was forced into it she was constricted come on man they don't believe what they're saying you need to remember that with people like this that's why they didn't show my video
17:42because they are being dishonest they have to avoid the counter arum they have to take every effort to make sure their audience does not actually see what they
17:49are responding to cuz these are the sorts of people who would lose a debate to an inanimate video if they tried to respond to it live I'm telling you they
17:56they would not be able to do it I wouldn't even need to be there for my video pre-recorded to beat these two in debate it is that bad so here's a
Chapter 3: The "taxes" argument
18:05challenge to you guys if the US government is buying bombs for Israel and funding the
18:13genocide stop paying taxes you can you can be that consciouses objector stop paying
18:22taxes if you don't want to support the funding and and you're willing to put yourself you know on the line like you saying Ela should have stop giving the
18:31government their taxes go to jail see what happens or I mean you should be you should be willing
18:37to make that that risk and that sacrifice right I mean I don't see the so just stop paying taxes and see what you don't see the difference what
18:46happens and we'll all be very happy and proud of you uh for going to jail for not paying taxes I now this is a sort of thing that
18:54can only seem like an amazing talking point to you as I said if you were extremely dumb and Ethan Clan absolutely fits that bill he is a dumb guy YouTuber
19:03that is the best description of him and others like him the commentary drama sort of YouTubers they are dumb guys and when they fail to stay in their Lane it becomes very apparent so let's think
19:12about that for a second is paying taxes on the same level of responsibility as being in the military does anyone actually believe that does Ethan Glen
19:20actually believe that no he doesn't No One Believes that if you're on the front lines raiding a Palestinian house or
19:27helping to organize that raid on the Palestinian house after asking to be transferred there no less are you the same as someone not doing that but who
19:36is paying taxes that fund that are you on the same level of responsibility are you on the same level of proximity to the axe no no you obviously are not and
19:46while we're on that topic is the punishment the same the punishment for not paying taxes is actually a whole lot
19:52worse than refusing service in the IDF you don't pay taxes everything that you've own or have ever owned is going to be seized and you're going to go to
20:01prison for an absurdly long time all while you are not even remotely close on the same level of responsibility as someone who's literally in the military
20:09those taxes also fund a pleora of other things that are not the military whereas obviously being in the military you know
20:16we all know what the military is for it's for in Israel the military is for terrorizing genociding killing Palestinians they especially like to
20:24kill children and babies don't forget that firstly the punishment for avoiding service in the Israeli military for most people who avoid service is nothing because they get out on some sort of
20:32exemption one of the exemptions that hila Klein herself said In that clip that we went over that she could have leveraged for herself if she had wanted
20:40to two for those who want to get out of serving but who nonetheless somehow can't figure out an exemption that applies to them the punishment is a
20:47couple of months to a year in prison so you can spend a year two years of your life assisting with a genocidal military
20:55that masses children in droves or you can choose choose to spend a couple of months to a year in what for Israelis
21:03who do not endure the same horrid prison conditions that Israelis inflict on Palestinians is a relatively fine prison obviously it's still a prison but it is
21:12not even remotely close to the prison conditions that they inflict on their Palestinian hostages to give you an example of this let's look at a very
21:18recent case tal mitnik an 18-year-old Israeli who refused service in the IDF this year during the Gaza genocide mnik
21:26spent a total of 6 months in prison and then was Exempted from Service as a result of his refusal he is now an influential activist known around the
21:33world he has gained a significant profile on social media and if he so chooses he's going to be set for life as an influencer as a result of doing this
21:41Ethan and heila basically made it sound like the dude would be killing himself or something but honestly he's better off now than he was before as a result
21:49of doing the right thing here compared to killing babies or helping people kill babies he definitely made the right choice for himself as well not even just
21:57for the potential people people that he might have helped to kill you know war is dangerous even if you're not exactly on the front lines you can be risking
22:05your life 6 months in a prison cell in comparison even out of self-interest doesn't sound so bad so if the balance of things is allow myself to be
22:13conscripted and kill babies or attempt to get out of serving which as heila noted is relatively easy especially for
22:21women like her and in the worst case scenario go to prison would you choose to help kill the babies or would you
22:28choose choose one of the other options I would hope that you would not choose the killing babies thing cuz uh yeah if you
22:35do choose that option it is fair to blame you I have never ever ever seen anyone say ever that conscripts in
22:42militaries that commit horrid crimes should be Exempted from being blamed for committing those crimes I've never I've never really seen that argument in any
22:51real practical case except with people who want to excuse IDF soldiers really you can always just say let's apply this
22:57logic to the and see how it does and make these sorts of people winse because they know that they can't respond to that sort of argument nonetheless I want
23:05to make a abundantly clear here I'm repeating this again and again and again because people just ignore it and they post like come on I IDF people are
23:15conscripted you're so disgusting and for you know oppressing the poor IDF conscripts by saying that they're actually responsible for their actions that they're human beings who have a
23:23choice it may be a limited spectrum of choice but they still do have a choice even if I was to accept that argument Hil Klein initially had a desk job
23:32booking hotels for terrorists she found that not fun enough so she asked for a more direct role closer to the terrorist
23:40attacks in both responsibility and physical proximity while acknowledging that she could have leveraged some of the ways to get out if she had really
23:48wanted to but did not so we're not even talking about someone who was just conscripted and did the initial role that they were given that they were
23:55so-called forced into we're talking about someone who went well beyond that who talked about their victims as if they were like cattle or animals Ethan
24:02literally calls Palestinians it I forgot to mention this last time Ean literally says it to refer to the the the random
24:12Palestinian ramala who was kidnapped by the IDF but surrounded with them so okay did they arrest anyone that night they
24:20did did they bring it in the same car with you no oh they bring it the arrested Palestinian did they bring it
24:27in the same car res you so let's ask some questions here to finish this up is paying taxes the same
24:36as being in a genocidal terrorist imperialist military like that of Israel is it the same no obviously not if you
24:45boil the question down to what it really is which is a few months in a Cell versus shoot babies in the head or at
24:53least help the guys who are shooting the babies in the head and yes that is what the IDF does I'm not going to be around the bush and pretend they don't then yeah you can be blamed for not choosing
25:02the prison instead absolutely the question of ah if you guys were in that situation maybe you wouldn't have been moral enough to choose the right choice or whatever blah blah blah you know what
25:11maybe some of the people watching wouldn't have but you mistake explanation for excuse this is what a lot of people do they use an explanation
25:19as to like why these people end up in the positions that they are in as an excuse for what they end up doing but there is no standard of morality no
25:27standard of no standard of law of Justice anywhere in the world where anyone really thinks in that way where anyone would accept that is really a
25:35valid argument they might accept it as like a mitigating circumstance for sentencing but they wouldn't accept it as like something that totally absolves
25:43the person of responsibility for what they have done a great example from this whole controversy is Ethan himself who again treated Rashid the 19-year-old
25:51yeni as a terrorist because you know he supports the hoofy government of Yemen Ethan is so willing to empathize with Israeli soldiers who again are
25:59terrorists actual terrorists not like Rashid yet for Rashid the Arab guy he can't apply that sort of thing where
26:07he's like well I'm going to think about how this guy came to be who he is I'm going to think about the explanation for how he got there I'm going to think about why he thinks the way he does why
26:16he does the things that he does for the genocides the terrorists the Israeli genocidal soldiers and the The crucial operational logistical employees who
26:24help them out in the carrying out of their genocide and their terrorism he's all about empathy he's all about deflecting blame random 19-year-old Arab
26:33who happened to be born in Yemen who grew up during a genocide during the Civil War he takes the gloves off immediately and um yeah what else is
26:42there to say about this these people are not honest if they were honest they would have shown my video to their fans if they were honest they would hop on
26:50and talk to me about this rather than you know speaking about it in an isolated environment where no one can push back against the stuff they're saying in real time Ean wouldn't
26:58intentionally go after people with you know fewer followers who he knows are perhaps less capable less well versed in
27:06this than I am while avoiding me when clearly by the fact that they talked about this they have seen my video or at least know of its existence so yeah all
27:15in all it's it's man it's double standards out the Wazoo sorry for using that word but I I I you get a chance to use the word wisu you got to
27:23take the opportunity right and and not just that I'm not going to pretend it really is just double stand cuz I hate when we compare things that aren't
27:30comparable and act as if they are it's not comparable to be a 19-year-old yeni man who has sympathies for the hoies and
27:38to be an IDF Soldier or IDF secretary as hila Klein described it in the West Bank or any any other thing that the IDF does
27:46because there's no comparison to the IDF nothing that you can't compare anything else to the IDF they are horrid they're carrying out a genocide right now their
27:55soldiers they are intentionally shooting children in their head they're burning people alive as as we speak I'm not going to pretend it's the same thing I'm not going to pretend that we're
28:03comparing comparable things here I'm not going to see that ground to Ethan and no one should cuz it's not just that by his own standards Hein is a terrorist it's
28:11by objective standards that really everyone abides by when we use that word by those heila Klein is a terrorist and
28:18any attempt to absolve her of that label is arbitary totally arbitrary emotional not coming from any form of logic or any
28:27form of consistently applied principles the only reason the IDF is not a globally declared terrorist organization like the same sort of organization if it
28:35were ranian and doing the same things that the Israeli military does would be is because obviously the west of the allies of Israel again I will reiterate
28:43here even though they are too cowardly for it talk to me anytime please prepare your best talking points or like send
28:50like a research team to research into me and and like try to devolve it into personal attacks or whatever it is that you guys do why don't you actually open yourself up to a little bit of scrutiny
28:59man why don't you actually stop being a coward or you know how about we go further than that why don't you admit that you were wrong why don't you write
29:07an apology a sincere apology to Rasheed 19-year-old genocide victim who you smeared as a terrorist you should have
29:14some humility admit that you were wrong admit that you were wrong to theplatform Arab creators for saying that Israeli hummus is admit that you were in
29:22way over your head and you don't know what you are doing at least be like moist critical though you know near as as funny or charismatic as him at least
29:31be like him and know when you should stay in your lane know not to get too far in over your head because there are
29:38way too many of these dumb guy YouTubers who are not as intelligent as moist critical on that sort of thing and they
29:45just constantly get themselves in way over their head make themselves look like morons and this is one of the few times where someone's actually properly being called out for it like there's
29:53some ordinary gamers video on this which maybe I should respond to eventually as well too is so dark terrible but
30:01you know do I really want to put more effort into this slop content that I'm currently producing regarding this whole controversy by going over more of it you
30:10know more dumb guys talking about the same exact subject eh not really but yeah I just wanted to talk about that phenomenon at the end of this video as
30:19well because it is very dumb what better way to describe it these people are just very dishonest they're incredibly dishonest incredibly inconsistent
30:28clearly don't have principles or beliefs I think Ethan Klein just believes that he's like a good guy like he he believes that he's a morally good guy so whatever
30:36it is that he believes is morally good and anyone who like responds to him and is like actually no what you believe is
30:43pretty man that's bad he believes that you know they must have some sort of impure motivation like anti-Semitism to say something like that to him
30:52because he's a good guy right he's a good guy he can't do bad he can't say bad things he can't support bad things his wife could never do bad things and
30:59yeah that's my assessment of how they basically got where they are right now up creek without a paddle but unfortunately in that quest to to
31:07Traverse the creek of feces they have legitimately hurt lots of people and legitimately hurt the anti-palestinian
31:16cause to the point that in some respects they have legitimized anti-palestinian propaganda and they are certainly
31:23responsible for more harm being done to Palestinians in Gaza as a result of that and and I hope even though I don't think it will because I don't think they have
31:30a conscious enough to even realize this I hope that keeps them up at night I hope the they see the Palestinian children who will be harmed more due to
31:38their actions and their dreams